The Butcher’s Needle: Why are Doctors Killing People?

Is life “unfair,” or is it perfectly just? ⚖️

We often view terminal illness as a cruel tragedy, but from a Vedic perspective, every moment of suffering is a divine education. When pioneers like Dr. Ian Ball offer a shortcut through lethal injection, they aren’t just ending pain—they are interrupting a vital lesson that the soul must eventually return to finish.

Read more on the “Karmic Demotion” and why perseverance is the only true way to “burn the mountain” of our past.

Dr. Ian Ball is a Canadian physician and a pioneer in what is known as Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID). This procedure is for those diagnosed with a terminal illness. There is no hope of recovery or prognosis. For instance, if a patient suffering from cancer finds their pain unbearable, they may request MAID. In these instances, Dr. Ball or a colleague arrives to administer death through a specific set of lethal injections.

The scale of this practice has grown significantly. In 2024, in Canada alone, 16,499 people died by MAID, lives ended by the choice of patients. These are deaths through the direct actions of a doctor. This staggering figure represents over 5% of all registered deaths in Canada for that year. For those who know the value of life through spiritual knowledge, this trend is deeply distressing.

It is to be noted that doctors are also heavily involved in the other side of assisted death. They call it abortions. This has already resulted in a massive reduction of life expectancy rates around the world.

The Infallible Law of Karma

The law of karma is perfectly just and infallible. It is a misconception to say that “life is unfair”; in reality, life is perfectly fair to everyone. The principle is simple: As you sow, so shall you reap. What goes around, truly comes around. The cycle of actions and reactions is incredibly complex. As a result, many fail to understand this intricate chain of cause and effect.

Alas, a materially motivated person continues in this cycle:

नूनं प्रमत्त: कुरुते विकर्म
यदिन्द्रियप्रीतय आपृणोति ।
न साधु मन्ये यत आत्मनोऽय-
मसन्नपि क्लेशद आस देह: ॥ ४ ॥

nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma
yad indriya-prītaya āpṛṇoti
na sādhu manye yata ātmano ’yam
asann api kleśada āsa dehaḥ

When a person considers sense gratification the aim of life, he certainly becomes mad after materialistic living and engages in all kinds of sinful activity. He does not know that due to his past misdeeds he has already received a body which, although temporary, is the cause of his misery. Actually the living entity should not have taken on a material body, but he has been awarded the material body for sense gratification. Therefore I think it not befitting an intelligent man to involve himself again in the activities of sense gratification by which he perpetually gets material bodies one after another.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/5/5/4/

The intricacies of action and reaction are extremely difficult to understand, actually – it is not always what it looks like:

किं कर्म किमकर्मेति कवयोऽप्यत्र मोहिताः ।
तत्ते कर्म प्रवक्ष्यामि यज्ज्ञात्वा मोक्ष्यसेऽश‍ुभात् ॥ १६ ॥

kiṁ karma kim akarmeti
kavayo ’py atra mohitāḥ
tat te karma pravakṣyāmi
yaj jñātvā mokṣyase ’śubhāt

Even the intelligent are bewildered in determining what is action and what is inaction. Now I shall explain to you what action is, knowing which you shall be liberated from all misfortune.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/4/16/

Our joys and sufferings are the direct result of our own past karmic reactions. We are affected by everything in this material world. This includes our genes, family, brain, body, work, health, money, and relationships. These are reactions to our past activities. These reactions are not punishments, but lessons meant to help us advance toward spiritual perfection. We are meant to accept them with grace, tolerance, and love, while maintaining gratitude toward God, as expressed in the mood of:

तत्तेऽनुकम्पां सुसमीक्षमाणो
भुञ्जान एवात्मकृतं विपाकम् ।
हृद्वाग्वपुर्भिर्विदधन्नमस्ते
जीवेत यो मुक्तिपदे स दायभाक् ॥ ८ ॥

tat te ’nukampāṁ su-samīkṣamāṇo
bhuñjāna evātma-kṛtaṁ vipākam
hṛd-vāg-vapurbhir vidadhan namas te
jīveta yo mukti-pade sa dāya-bhāk

My dear Lord, one who earnestly waits for You to bestow Your causeless mercy upon him, all the while patiently suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds and offering You respectful obeisances with his heart, words and body, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/10/14/8/

The Himalayan Mountain vs. The Spoonful

To truly grasp the gravity of our situation, we must realize that our karmic reactions are virtually unlimited. We have been in the material realm for millions and millions of lives. Many of these reactions are mostly hidden from our view. Our total accumulated karma is comparable to the size of a Himalayan mountain. We bring only the equivalent of a single spoonful into any one lifetime. This portion is known as prarabdha karma. It progresses through three stages. Kutam signifies the hidden potential. Bijam is the seed form. Phala represents the visible “flowers and fruits” of pleasure or pain. When a doctor administers MAID to “stop the pain,” they aim to pluck out a single piece of “bitter fruit.” This action leaves the vast mountain of seeds and latent reactions untouched. These seeds are then ready to sprout again.

Himalayan Mountain
Himalayan Mountain

This statement is confirmed in the Padma Purāṇa:

aprārabdha-phalaṁ pāpaṁ
kūtaṁ bījaṁ phalonmukham
krameṇaiva pralīyante
viṣṇu-bhakti-ratātmanā

For those who are engaged in the devotional service of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, all sinful reactions, whether fructified, in the stock, or in the form of a seed, gradually vanish.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/9/2/ – purport

A Spoonful...
A Spoonful…

The Alchemy of Perseverance: Burning the Mountain

On the other hand, when a soul chooses to persevere for spiritual perfection, a miraculous transformation occurs. This happens through the fire of pain. By meeting suffering with equanimity and devotion, the soul doesn’t just pay off the spoonful of current karma. It actually burns off a vast amount of accumulated reactions from that hidden Himalayan mountain. This conscious endurance acts as a spiritual furnace. It incinerates the seeds (bijam) and latent potentials (kutam). These would have otherwise forced the soul into countless future births of suffering. What seems like a tragedy to the material eye is actually the soul’s best chance to clear the books. It is also the final liberation.

The Gift of Human Consciousness vs. Animal Instinct

It is vital to understand the distinction between human life and the lower species. In animal life, there is neither agency nor freedom, nor is there any inherent desire to do better. The specific animal form imposes its conditioning completely; the creature simply acts according to instinct. In contrast, human life is a unique gift. We alone possess the ability to reflect upon our condition, to tolerate our circumstances, and to grow. An animal is a prisoner of its biological programming. However, a human being can use even the most difficult suffering. This suffering can serve as a catalyst for spiritual evolution.

नृदेहमाद्यं सुलभं सुदुर्लभं
प्लवं सुकल्पं गुरुकर्णधारम् ।
मयानुकूलेन नभस्वतेरितं
पुमान् भवाब्धिं न तरेत् स आत्महा ॥ १७ ॥

nṛ-deham ādyaṁ su-labhaṁ su-durlabhaṁ
plavaṁ su-kalpaṁ guru-karṇadhāram
mayānukūlena nabhasvateritaṁ
pumān bhavābdhiṁ na taret sa ātma-hā
Synonyms

The human body, which can award all benefit in life, is automatically obtained by the laws of nature, although it is a very rare achievement. This human body can be compared to a perfectly constructed boat having the spiritual master as the captain and the instructions of the Personality of Godhead as favorable winds impelling it on its course. Considering all these advantages, a human being who does not utilize his human life to cross the ocean of material existence must be considered the killer of his own soul.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/11/20/17/

Human Consciousness
Human Consciousness

The Moment of Death and the Karmic Demotion

Furthermore, the consciousness of the soul at the moment of death determines its next destination. By choosing the “easy way out” through MAID, the soul avoids its challenges. This decision leads to spiritual stagnation. Instead of finding liberation from pain, the soul returns to the karmic cycle. It suffers even more than before. The individual has wasted the precious opportunity to use the human form for spiritual growth. As a result, they face a demotion. They are forced to take birth in a species characterized by tremendous suffering. In this new form, the light of human reason is no longer available to them. If I die like an animal running away from mere bodily pain, I will take life as an animal.

यं यं वापि स्मरन्भावं त्यजत्यन्ते कलेवरम् ।
तं तमेवैति कौन्तेय सदा तद्भ‍ावभावित: ॥ ६ ॥

yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ
tyajaty ante kalevaram
taṁ tam evaiti kaunteya
sadā tad-bhāva-bhāvitaḥ
Synonyms

Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of Kuntī, that state he will attain without fail.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/8/6/

Krishna embraces His Devotee
Krishna embraces His Devotee

Temporary Suffering as Education

Karmic reactions act like the discipline of a benevolent, loving parent. If I have caused pain to other living entities, I must learn what that pain feels like. If I have brought joy to others, I am given a proportionate reaction. When this educational process is cut short by artificial means, the lesson remains unlearned. It is like dropping out of a difficult course of study. You will not get the “degree” until the requirements are met.

  • The Compounding Debt: When “therapeutic” pain is cut short, the patient suffers even more in the future. A debt balloons if not paid on time. A fire rages if unchecked. A disease festers when untreated.
  • Treating the Symptom: The terminal patient’s pain is not the disease! The terminal illness is not the disease! The true disease is the unfortunate attitude and impious activities that led to a material body. The material body is already doomed with a terminal illness the day it is born. Alas, the disease remains untreated, and the doctors are responsible for letting that spiritual disease flourish.

जातस्य हि ध्रुवो मृत्युर्ध्रुवं जन्म मृतस्य च ।
तस्मादपरिहार्येऽर्थे न त्वं शोचितुमर्हसि ॥ २७ ॥

jātasya hi dhruvo mṛtyur
dhruvaṁ janma mṛtasya ca


One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/27/

Intelligence vs. Mere Cleverness

To understand why this happens, we must distinguish between true intelligence and mere cleverness. Intelligence is the higher capacity to see right from wrong, the power of discrimination. Cleverness is simply the mental ability to solve material problems. One can be incredibly clever at administering a medical procedure while remaining completely unintelligent about the moral and karmic consequences. Without the ability to discern what benefits the soul, cleverness can harm it. Cleverness becomes a dangerous tool under these circumstances.

तेषां सततयुक्तानां भजतां प्रीतिपूर्वकम् ।
ददामि बुद्धियोगं तं येन मामुपयान्ति ते ॥ १० ॥

teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ
bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam
dadāmi buddhi-yogaṁ taṁ
yena mām upayānti te
Synonyms

teṣām — unto them; satatayuktānām — always engaged; bhajatām — in rendering devotional service; prītipūrvakam — in loving ecstasy; dadāmi — I give; buddhiyogam — real intelligence; tam — that; yena — by which; mām — unto Me; upayānti — come; te — they.Translation

To those who are constantly devoted to serving Me with love, I give the understanding by which they can come to Me.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/10/10/

The Blind Leading the Blind

Physicians who perform these acts suffer terrible karmic reactions themselves. It is not that Dr. Ball and his colleagues set out with ill intent; they do this because of their lack of spiritual education. They are in ignorance, acting in ignorance, a classic case of the blind leading the blind.

Dr. Ball is undoubtedly a highly trained physician. He has an above-average mental capacity. He also has the courage to perform a very difficult task. Unfortunately, I presently have no influence over him or his colleagues. It is said that “fools rush in where angels fear to tread.” He is very clever, but he is unintelligent. He has no clue about the laws that govern the soul in the material world.

न ते विदु: स्वार्थगतिं हि विष्णुं
दुराशया ये बहिरर्थमानिन: ।
अन्धा यथान्धैरुपनीयमाना-
स्तेऽपीशतन्‍त्र्यामुरुदाम्नि बद्धा: ॥ ३१ ॥

na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇuṁ
durāśayā ye bahir-artha-māninaḥ
andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānās
te ’pīśa-tantryām uru-dāmni baddhāḥ
Synonyms

Persons who are strongly entrapped by the consciousness of enjoying material life, and who have therefore accepted as their leader or guru a similar blind man attached to external sense objects, cannot understand that the goal of life is to return home, back to Godhead, and engage in the service of Lord Viṣṇu. As blind men guided by another blind man miss the right path and fall into a ditch, materially attached men led by another materially attached man are bound by the ropes of fruitive labor, which are made of very strong cords, and they continue again and again in materialistic life, suffering the threefold miseries.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/7/5/31/

Blind Leading the Blind
Blind Leading the Blind

A Final Plea

I pray that God grants all such people the proper intelligence to do the right thing. At the very least, doctors should not be in the business of killing. That is the business of butchers, not healers.

Hare Krishna!

Please chant:

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
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Class on SB 8.7.40-42 21 Aug 2025 Online

Join us for an enlightening session on Srimad Bhagavatam verses 8.7.40-42 with HG Mahabhagavat Das. This uplifting discussion highlights Lord Shiva’s selfless compassion and the importance of benevolence for all living entities. Don’t miss this opportunity to deepen your understanding on August 21, 2025, at 7:20 AM ET!

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SPEAKER: HG Mahabhagavat Das

TOPIC:*Srimad Bhagavatam verse 8.7.40-42

DATE📆: Thursday, 21st August 2025

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ŚB 8.7.40

पुंस: कृपयतो भद्रे सर्वात्मा प्रीयते हरि: ।
प्रीते हरौ भगवति प्रीयेऽहं सचराचर: ।
तस्मादिदं गरं भुञ्जे प्रजानां स्वस्तिरस्तु मे ॥ ४० ॥

puṁsaḥ kṛpayato bhadre
sarvātmā prīyate hariḥ
prīte harau bhagavati
prīye ’haṁ sacarācaraḥ
tasmād idaṁ garaṁ bhuñje
prajānāṁ svastir astu me

Synonyms

puṁsaḥ — with a person; kṛpayataḥ — engaged in benevolent activities; bhadre — O most gentle Bhavānī; sarvaātmā — the Supersoul; prīyate — becomes pleased; hariḥ — the Supreme Personality of Godhead; prīte — because of His pleasure; harau — the Supreme Lord, Hari; bhagavati — the Personality of Godhead; prīye — also become pleased; aham — I; sacaraacaraḥ — with all others, moving and nonmoving; tasmāt — therefore; idam — this; garam — poison; bhuñje — let me drink; prajānām — of the living entities; svastiḥ — welfare; astu — let there be; me — by me.

Translation

My dear gentle wife Bhavānī, when one performs benevolent activities for others, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Hari, is very pleased. And when the Lord is pleased, I am also pleased, along with all other living creatures. Therefore, let me drink this poison, for all the living entities may thus become happy because of me.

ŚB 8.7.41

श्रीशुक उवाच
एवमामन्‍त्र्य भगवान्भवानीं विश्वभावन: ।
तद् विषं जग्धुमारेभे प्रभावज्ञान्वमोदत ॥ ४१ ॥

śrī-śuka uvāca
evam āmantrya bhagavān
bhavānīṁ viśva-bhāvanaḥ
tad viṣaṁ jagdhum ārebhe
prabhāva-jñānvamodata

Synonyms

śrīśukaḥ uvāca — Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī said; evam — in this way; āmantrya — addressing; bhagavān — Lord Śiva; bhavānīm — Bhavānī; viśvabhāvanaḥ — the well-wisher of all the universe; tat viṣam — that poison; jagdhum — to drink; ārebhe — began; prabhāvajñā — mother Bhavānī, who perfectly knew the capability of Lord Śiva; anvamodata — gave her permission.

Translation

Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued: After informing Bhavānī in this way, Lord Śiva began to drink the poison, and Bhavānī, who knew perfectly well the capabilities of Lord Śiva, gave him her permission to do so.

ŚB 8.7.42

तत: करतलीकृत्य व्यापि हालाहलं विषम् ।
अभक्षयन्महादेव: कृपया भूतभावन: ॥ ४२ ॥

tataḥ karatalī-kṛtya
vyāpi hālāhalaṁ viṣam
abhakṣayan mahā-devaḥ
kṛpayā bhūta-bhāvanaḥ

Synonyms

tataḥ — thereafter; karatalīkṛtya — taking in his hand; vyāpi — widespread; hālāhalam — called hālahalaviṣam — poison; abhakṣayat — drank; mahādevaḥ — Lord Śiva; kṛpayā — out of compassion; bhūtabhāvanaḥ — for the welfare of all living entities.

Translation

Thereafter, Lord Śiva, who is dedicated to auspicious, benevolent work for humanity, compassionately took the whole quantity of poison in his palm and drank it.

Purport

Although there was such a great quantity of poison that it spread all over the universe, Lord Śiva had such great power that he reduced the poison to a small quantity so that he could hold it in his palm. One should not try to imitate Lord Śiva. Lord Śiva can do whatever he likes, but those who try to imitate Lord Śiva by smoking ganja and other poisonous things will certainly be killed because of such activities.

Is Srila Prabhupada insulting Lord Shiva?

Srila Prabhupada, a great teacher, wrote prolifically. Even though his works are lucid and clear, there are many misunderstandings about his writings. One is that he insulted Lord Shiva. Is this true?

Question:

A devotee who has been with ISKCON for 7 years has asked this question… he says he does not agree with Srila Prabhupada’s purport to BG 2.62.

Lord Śiva was deep in meditation, but when Pārvatī agitated him for sense pleasure, he agreed to the proposal, and as a result Kārtikeya was born.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/2/62/

He says that this is not the real story also he doesn’t agree that Lord Shiva can be agitated.

Lord Shiva, Parvati Devi, and their children Kartikeya and Ganesha

Answer:

Thank you for writing to me about this. It is an important thing.

First and foremost we have to understand who is Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada is a pure devotee. As a pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada has no envy in his heart. Srila Prabhupada has no desire to criticize someone unnecessarily. He also has no tendency to try and pull someone down. In fact, Srila Prabhupada is on the Uttama Adhikari platform. As an Uttama Adhikari, he feels that everyone else is serving Krishna except himself. But Srila Prabhupada came down to the Madhyama Adhikari platform. On this platform, he suppressed his ecstatic emotions and took the role of a teacher of Krishna Consciousness. Thus he preached to us poor lost souls in the material world. Srila Prabhupada undertook an austerity for us. Just like Lord Shiva drank up the ocean of poison, Srila Prabhupada tolerated the poisonous nature of this material world. His sacrifice saves us all.

Great personalities accept voluntary suffering for the benefit of others

“tapyante loka taapena”, this is a verse from the Bhagavatam glorifying personalities like Lord Shiva and Srila Prabhupada.

तप्यन्ते लोकतापेन साधव: प्रायशो जना: ।
परमाराधनं तद्धि पुरुषस्याखिलात्मन: ॥ ४४ ॥

tapyante loka-tāpena
sādhavaḥ prāyaśo janāḥ
paramārādhanaṁ tad dhi
puruṣasyākhilātmanaḥ

It is said that great personalities almost always accept voluntary suffering because of the suffering of people in general. This is considered the highest method of worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is present in everyone’s heart.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/8/7/44/

Lord Shiva drinks up an ocean of deadly poison and keeps it suspended in his throat

On the Madhyama Adhikari platform…

A devotee behaves differently with different kinds of personalities. A Madhyama Adhikari is a teacher/preacher… and his mission is to guide souls to spiritual perfection.

  1. To Supreme Personality of Godhead or His plenary expansions, he offers prayers
  2. To the devotees of Krishna, he makes friendship
  3. To the innocent, he preaches Krishna Consciousness
  4. Those envious of Krishna, he avoids

ईश्वरे तदधीनेषु बालिशेषु द्विषत्सु च ।
प्रेममैत्रीकृपोपेक्षा य: करोति स मध्यम: ॥ ४६ ॥

īśvare tad-adhīneṣu
bāliśeṣu dviṣatsu ca
prema-maitrī-kṛpopekṣā
yaḥ karoti sa madhyamaḥ

An intermediate or second-class devotee, called madhyama-adhikārī, offers his love to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is a sincere friend to all the devotees of the Lord, shows mercy to ignorant people who are innocent and disregards those who are envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/11/2/46/

Srila Prabhupada, the great Vaishnava Acharya

Now, let us examine who is Lord Shiva.

Lord Shiva is the Topmost Vaishnava, “vaishnavaanaam yathaa shambhu” as stated in the Bhagavatam.

निम्नगानां यथा गङ्गा देवानामच्युतो यथा ।
वैष्णवानां यथा शम्भु: पुराणानामिदं तथा ॥ १६ ॥

nimna-gānāṁ yathā gaṅgā
devānām acyuto yathā
vaiṣṇavānāṁ yathā śambhuḥ
purāṇānām idam tathā

Just as the Gaṅgā is the greatest of all rivers, Lord Acyuta the supreme among deities and Lord Śambhu [Śiva] the greatest of Vaiṣṇavas, so Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is the greatest of all Purāṇas.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/12/13/16/

In the Brahma Samhita (kshiram yatha dadhi vikaaram) it is stated that Lord Vishnu transforms as Lord Shiva when Lord Vishnu is “in touch” with material energy. This is just like how milk turns to curds when touched with tamarind. In other words, Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva have no difference of opinion. Krishna desires everyone to be His pure devotee. Similarly, Lord Shiva desires everyone to be Krishna’s pure devotee.

क्षीरं यथा दधि विकारविशेषयोगात्
सञ्जायते न हि ततः पृथगस्ति हेतोः ।
यः शम्भुतामपि तथा समुपैति कार्या-
-द्गोविन्दमादिपुरुषं तमहं भजामि ॥ ४५ ॥

kṣīraṁ yathā dadhi vikāra-viśeṣa-yogāt
sañjāyate na hi tataḥ pṛthag asti hetoḥ
yaḥ śambhutām api tathā samupaiti kāryād
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

Just as milk is transformed into curd by the action of acids, but yet the effect curd is neither same as, nor different from, its cause, viz., milk, so I adore the primeval Lord Govinda of whom the state of Śambhu is a transformation for the performance of the work of destruction.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bs/5/45/

In fact, without the mercy of Lord Shiva, no one can become a Vaishnava. Lord Shiva and Parvati Devi are regarded as the father and mother of the material world. As you know, father and mother are the first teachers of every child.

As such, Lord Shiva is beyond all criticism. And as Lord Shiva is a pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada would never criticize Lord Shiva.

Srila Prabhupada is stating the fact.

Lord Kartikeya was born of Shiva and Parvati’s union. Lord Brahma, who is Lord Vishnu’s son is born directly from Himself without the help or assistance of Lakshmi Devi.

In the Valmiki Ramayana, Kartikeya is mentioned as the son of Rudra and Parvati. Agni and Ganga Devi aided in his birth. We accept Valmiki Muni as an utmost authority.

Valmiki, the author of the Original Ramayana

In the Mahabharata, Kartikeya is mentioned as the son of Shiva and Parvati. He emerged as a result of Lord Shiva’s sexual union with Parvati Devi. The details I will not mention here. Ganga Devi cultivated the seed of Lord Shiva. Agni Deva, the demigod in charge of fire, kept it warm.

Now, there is a third story, from the Shiva Purana… Lord Shiva was meditating. Parvati Devi was trying to attract him. Kamadeva tried to help but was burned to ashes by the wrath of Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva, being merciful, then paid attention to Parvati Devi. He married her, and Kartikeya was conceived.

There is additionally a Tamil version of the Skanda Purana in which another story is presented. I read that story in the Amar Chitra Katha comics as a child. Only later I learned where the story came from. The demigods prayed to Lord Shiva and pleased Him. As a result, Lord Shiva manifested 5 additional heads. From each head came one spark. Vayu Deva, the demigod in charge of the wind, carried these sparks and handed them to Agni Deva. Agni Deva then carried the sparks to Ganga Devi, who took them to Saravana lake. There, 6 boys were born. The 6 boys were merged into one by Krittika Devi. This marked the appearance of Kartikeya. He then defeated the demons Surapadma and Simhamukha. These demons surrendered to Kartikeya and became his assistant associates.

Valmiki Ramayana is the Absolute Truth. Mahabharata is also composed by Veda Vyasa. Therefore, we have 2 authoritative references to support Srila Prabhupada’s statement about Lord Shiva in BG 2.62.

Srila Prabhupada is a highly empowered Vaishnava Acharya who has presented Krishna Consciousness in the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya. Why should anyone accept an objection raised by an uncontrolled mind? Instead, whenever we hear the instruction of the Acharya, we should strive to understand how it is true. It’s not about whether it is true or not, but how it is true. This is called surrender. It may take time. It took me many years to surrender to my Guru Maharaja, but eventually I did. Whenever I had any doubts about Srila Prabhupada’s words, my spiritual masters helped me. They guided me with proper understanding to overcome that doubt.

To “disagree” with an Acharya, is simply immaturity.

Sometimes Acharyas disagree with each other. This is alright if they are of an equal stature. In that case, the rest of us must try to understand how they are right, all of them! Spiritual reality is truly wonderful. It is not one dimensional.

Puranic stories sometimes differ because they describe one kalpa (a day of Brahma) or another. On different days of Lord Brahma, there can be variations in some details.

Lord Shiva’s agitation by Parvati is not an insult to Lord Shiva.

Instead, it glorifies his great devotion to Sri Krishna. By personal example, Lord Shiva is showing how great Lord Krishna is. Lord Krishna remained without agitation even when surrounded by 3 Billion beautiful young gopis. The gopis were ready to do anything for Krishna. Krishna is an eternal Brahmachari, and the proof of this statement is Sri Bhishmadeva who has stated this personally!

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Glossary – Personalities & Concepts mentioned in the article:

  • Acharya – A teacher in one of 4 authorized disciplic successions from God, who teaches by personal example
  • Agni Deva – The demigod in charge of fire
  • Bhagavatam – The topmost spiritual scripture, available online at https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/
  • Bhishmadeva – Among the 12 greatest spiritual authorities of our universe, played a pivotal role in the Mahabharata, sometimes referred to as “grandsire” or “grandfather”
  • Brahma – The creator of this universe, son of Lord Vishnu
  • Brahma Samhita – The composition of Lord Brahma is a 100-chapter book. Only Chapter 5 is available. It can be found online at https://vedabase.io/en/library/bs
  • Deva – “Demigod”, also used as an honorific for divine personalities
  • Ganga – The most sacred river in our Universe, a liquid form of God
  • Gopis – The topmost saints, devotees of Krishna
  • Guru – Spiritual Master, also “heavy”
  • Kalpa – A day of Brahma, 4.32 Billion Years long
  • Kama – Literally “lust”, used to refer to the demigod in charge of love
  • Kartikeya – Son of Shiva and Parvati, the military commander of the demigods
  • Krishna – The Supreme Personality of Godhead, source of both spiritual and material realms, the One and Only appearing Himself in different forms and with different names
  • Krittika Devi – a demigoddess
  • Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya – A current unbroken line of disciplic succession from God Himself, included below for reference
  • Madhyama Adhikari – defined above
  • Maharaja – King among men, used to refer to royalty and to renounced or exalted souls
  • Parvati – The consort of Lord Shiva, expanded as the material energy
  • Purana – Authorized history of the Universe, there are 18 such histories, 6 meant for those in the mode of goodness, 6 for those in the mode of passion, and 6 meant for those in the mode of passion
  • Ramayana – The pastimes of Lord Rama, the Personality of Godhead
  • Rudra – A son of Lord Brahma, born of his anger from his forehead
  • Simhamukha & Surapadma – Former demons who accepted the shelter of Kartikeya and became his assistants
  • Shiva – The auspicious one, also referred to as Rudra
  • Shiva Purana – The scripture describing the pastimes of Lord Shiva, meant for the benefit of those situated in the mode of ignorance
  • Sri – Opulence, refers to the Goddess of Fortune, or someone blessed with some extraordinary opulence
  • Uttama Adhikari – defined above
  • Valmiki – The author of the original Ramayana, disciple of Narada
  • Vayu Deva – The demigod in charge of the air and wind
  • Vishnu – An expansion of Krishna
  • Vyasa – The compiler of Vedic literature

The Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya:

1. Kṛṣṇa
2. Brahmā
3. Nārada
4. Vyāsa
5. Madhva
6. Padmanābha
7. Nṛhari
8. Mādhava
9. Akṣobhya
10. Jaya Tīrtha
11. Jñānasindhu
12. Dayānidhi
13. Vidyānidhi
14. Rājendra
15. Jayadharma
16. Puruṣottama
17. Brahmaṇya Tīrtha
18. Vyāsa Tīrtha
19. Lakṣmīpati
20. Mādhavendra Purī
21. Īśvara Purī, (Nityānanda, Advaita)
22. Lord Caitanya
23. Rūpa, (Svarūpa, Sanātana)
24. Raghunātha, Jīva
25. Kṛṣṇadāsa
26. Narottama
27. Viśvanātha
28. (Baladeva), Jagannātha
29. Bhaktivinoda
30. Gaurakiśora
31. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī
32. A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

The Author’s spiritual master, His Grace Sriman Sankarshan Das Adhikari, is a disciple of His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.